PLAID GOING FOR INDEPENDENCE? SEEMS A CASE OF IF IN DOUBT SAY NOUGHT! PLAIDWYR AS PER USUAL PASSIVE PATRIOTS - HARDLY A WHISPER OF DISCONTENT APART

1. From Alunindyafed and Cith ap Henri, see his letter below as printed in Western Mail.
2. They are both right but few other members of Plaid are willing to back them, of course
3. the truth is it's game over for Plaid, hardly any real Nationalists left in their ranks. Most
4. that were have long ago left disillusioned and there are few of a younger generation who
5. are interested in their 'Suits Generation' style of Reformist Moderation Cultural Nationalism.
6. It does not take a Political Scientist to smell the coffee or see the writting already on the wall,
7. the Plaid leadership will cop out on 'Welsh Independence' again, waffle away and baffle an
8. already bored membership and then grovel away for Labour crumbs. No shame! No Guts!

So I suggest to Alun and Keith quit Plaid and go over to S.O.S. and an YMGYRCH SOFRANIAETH!

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   SNP shows the way

   SIR – The SNP in Scotland has shown the way forward for Plaid Cymru.

   We need to campaign hard and continuously on the need for a free Wales. A self governing state in charge of all her internal and external affairs.

   The One Wales Government was successful in bringing further devolution but no further advances will come from being shackled to New Labour.

   New Labour in Cardiff and the Tories in London offer us inertia and stagnation. Those of us involved in fighting the New Labour Party across Wales in the elections have seen what it is like. We want nothing to do with them.

   Support for independence will grow as we campaign on it. There is little real difference between Wales and Scotland. When Gwynfor Evans led the party its demand was for national freedom for Wales.

   He inspired me and thousands of others to support the idea of a Free Wales. It’s time Plaid Cymru got back on track.

   KEITH PARRY
   Canton, Cardiff
   
   
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   Suggest we all admit that we are all 'ANACHRONISTIC' and far better we just get used to a new slogan and way of life ANACRONISM AM BYTH! see blog link below following on 'SOAP BOX - WELSH NATION' VIA BLOG PROFILE OR VIA LINK BELOW:

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   2. Myself, am beginning to care less and less as the days go by, I am retiring anyway and can live quite happy with a Welsh Assembly, dominated by an 'Hwntw' Socialist South, half way towards my Republika Siluria - Socialist Sepratist South. All I got to do know is convince Llais Gwynedd to go all 'Nothern Lombard League' and seek Independence for Gwynedd, maybe Pura Wallia as a 'Micro Nation'. I can live with that too but could Gwladgarwyr Gwynedd, after all who will pay for the National Eisteddfod, S4C and pointless Poets and Furry Gonks and an Urdd Eisteddfod too, just how much 'Culture Cymraeg' do they want inc a TV Service they hardly watch?

   POETS BUSK and GONKS BURN!
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2. GOOD FOR LIZ II IT's OK then!

3. Queen formally appoints Carwyn Jones as First Minister

   May 12 2011 | Wales News

   Carwyn Jones has been formally appointed First Minister after the Assembly received an email from the Queen ratifying his nomination. ReadRead More http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2011/05/#ixzz1M9vFJjSG

   Well that's alright then, phew thought we might have to have another another election untill the Tories won! Meanwhile get a load of that chopsy 'Gog Git' below DET, how on earth have Plaidwyr put up with him for so long taking the Piss out of Patriots and their Patriotism. Throw him in Bae Caerdydd for god sake?

Elis-Thomas attacks 'mindless' Plaid election strategy

May 12 2011 | Wales News

DAFYDD ELIS-THOMAS has strongly criticised Plaid Cymru’s Assembly election strategy, describing its focus on attacking former coalition mates Labour as “mindless”. Read

Interview: Lord Elis-Thomas on his 12 years as Presiding Officer in the Assembly

May 12 2011 | Wales News

Over the past 12 years Dafydd Elis-Thomas has played a key role in shaping the Assembly’s evolution. As his tenure as Presiding Officer came to an abrupt end yesterday, Matt Withers caught up witha man who has, in his time,earned plaudits, made wavesin his own party, and even beenlikened to boxer Joe Calzaghe Read Read More http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2011/05/#ixzz1M9v3sY7z

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