Tuesday, March 22, 2011

REF YES RESULTS SUPRISED BUT NOT SURRENDERING! You Can Fool Some Of The People Some of The Time But Not All The People All The Time!


The Referendum 'yes' result for now suffice to say some quite amazing major nice yet to be explored suprises, I was as much as most myself suprised. I thought the Yes Campaign would edge it because the No Campaign was so misarably bad and negative, if they had more good spokes persons as Rachel Baner but then she lost the plot in the end. If they had persued the true devolution arguement and not waffled on about 'Slippery Slopes' and if they had not then been dumped by those in the Welsh Labour Party who were anti - Devolution but shut up and stayed in the background because they were told to do so or desereted the 'No' cause altogether.

BBC News - Welsh referendum: 'Dr No' Tim Williams says 'vote Yes'

28 Feb 2011 ... Guardian.co.uk FAQ: What the Welsh referendum means for Cardiff 3 hrs ago. Holyrood Time to look forward 5 hrs ago ... Gair Rhydd First Minister talks to gair rhydd 22 hrs ago. About these results ... Jet bomber on fire over Benghazi, Libya, 19 March 2011 Gaddafi forces attacking Benghazi ...
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-12597155 - Cached

Then things might have been different, I think myself they also shot themselves in the foot by not becoming the official 'No' opposition as if they did not have enough foot soldiers then money for media adverts could have paid off! They also got wrong the fact and here they should have known better that all these years down the road since previous two referendums on Devolution. There were more, many more who had a Status and finnancial interest in keeping the Assembly Show on the road, as well not least the Welsh chattering classes and Welsh Language Industry. However, another major suprise was in fact that given most Welsh, that is English Speakers cannot get Welsh News or are disinterested in Welsh News, it is most amazing that 'Yes' figured on the radar screen in such a big way. Remember most Welsh People read the English tabloids and all to sadly the Western Mail readership is very low.

BBC News - Welsh referendum: Change of heart 'mind boggling'

4 Mar 2011... complete change in electors' views, says Former First Minister Rhodri Morgan.... Wales Referendum 2011: Results in full 04 MARCH 2011, ...
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-12652186 - Cached

I say sadly, because I started reading Western Mail as a teenager way 'back in the day' and it did in many ways contribute to by growing 'Cymric Consciousness' and thus strong Welsh Identity. How? simply by making me aware of all and everything to do with Wales, past and present, about the geography of Wales and the people of Wales, not least the General news and Politics of Wales. Though, I have known 100's over the years who have never opened the Western Mail, then not least unlike 'Y Cymry' the Welsh (E.S) do not have programmes as Pawb e'i Farn to participate in unless it's in course of a referendum as recently. So just how did the 'Yes' campaign pull it off, it does not take a genius to know the answer to that, more self interest groups to back up, more sure of themselves and slicker but also a lot of pulling of strings, bullshit and lies too!

5 Mar 2011 ... So how do we judge the 2011 Welsh referendum result with no ... Feb 26 2011; Wales Referendum: Rhodri Morgan gets behind the Yes campaign ...
www.walesonline.co.uk/.../no-soundbites-just-the-hand-of-history-on-wales-91466-28284559/ -Cached

So will the WAG Welsh Ref Result be best describes as an amazing change of attitude or as more the 'Welsh March Hare' madness, how else can one explain it? is it all down to no more than what I have descibed above or is there something else to add to the mix? It cannot be just a stage managed, perhaps unfair to say it was a Confidence Trick? What about then that awful condescending 'Rugby Ticket' politicking, pathetic that Plaid Cymru went along with that 'Three Feather' Cambrian Patriotism crap, they will pay for that mistake believe me. Personally what I think did the trick was fear of the Tory Governement and the need to have a stronger Assembly to defend Wales against that Government. If anything though Plaid can pull out the numbers in rural Wales, with Labour backing the rural vote was even more solid for a 'yes'. Like wise in the Urban areas but in the North East and South it was the fact that Labour, the Left generally and the Unions could call out huge numbers in support of a 'yes' vote that won it to the joy of most but for how long perhaps?

Referendum result – Wales says yes. - Voices for change Cymru

Cheryl Gillan welcomes the 'Yes' referendum result. (Wales Office). Historic "Yes" vote gives Wales greater law-making powers. (Welsh Assembly Government) ...
www.voicesforchangecymru.org.uk/.../referendum-result-wales-says-yes - Cached

I am not going to indulge on how many voted and how many did not or even the abstentions, as after all the Lord Mayor of London was elected on less and so too American Presidents including Obama. The once
'Liberal Darling' his election to power is now more and more contested as a stage managed confidence trick that is as much working out for Capitalism and the war machine as it might be in a small way for the workers and vast underclass of America. History for the most part is moved by minorities not majorities, at least in the initial first instances. History often records the event concerning a minority rather than a majority as example 1910 Tonypandy Riots carried out by a few 100 radicals whilst at Aberdare same night a boxing match was attended by 1000's. In 1911, history tells us more of the Caernarfon Investiture rather than the Llanelli
Riots and other
Labour disputes . Some schools teach more of Henry V than they do of Owain Glyndwr and some schools teach more about Tryweryn than Aberfan or of Saunders Lewis more than Niclas y Glais. History after all is subjective no matter who writes it the victor or later the vanquised.

RED REMEMBRANCER: HANES CYMRU GOCH: NICLAS y GLAISREVISTED b: 06 ...

18 Mar 2011 ... Thomas Evan Nicholas (known as Niclas y Glais) (6 October 1879 - 19 .... 9 Mar 2011 ... My Little Republic. Welsh political group with a ...
redremembrancer.blogspot.com/2011/.../hanes-cymru-goch-niclas-y-glais.html - Cached

So what will 2011 be remembered for a Yes Vote in the Assembly Referendum or the English Royal Wedding being wildly celebrated all over Cymru/Wales or wishfully thinking a radical Welsh Republican Resurgence against the English Crown in Wales? Now that is what I would call an amazing 'Change of Attidude' indeed and really something to write up on in a diary and noted on the calender as a real ground breaking historic Welsh event 29 April 2011 the day the Welsh Patriotic Resurgence began aknew for real. Though it's more likly Patriots will run into their bunkers or if stupid enough book into Adam Phillip's Patriots Self Internment Camp Corris. More and more now I consider as possibly more worthy a contribution to the long weekend Machynlleth Comedy Festival with a Patriotic Parade of Clowns against Colonialism maybe?:

Pwca Power.: TAFF LAFF AWAY THE ROYAL WEDDING BLUES AT THE ...

20 Mar 2011 ... Pwca Power. Lets have some fun, need I say any more? ... Machynlleth Comedy Festival. A weekend of live comedy in Wales most historic town. ...
pwcapower.blogspot.com/.../taff-laff-away-royal-wedding-blues-at.html - Cached

Rather than being involved in Welsh Radical Republican Resurgence Resistence in an April ADFYWIAD GWLADGAROL 2011. Oh! The Fools! The Fools! The Fools! How they betray true Patriotic struggle in their 'Boy Scout' weekend camping at Corris. Pretty sad too, that John 'Mac Man' Jenkins is possibly to be up front with the 'Boys in the Band' rather than to the fore in helping to mount a Patriotic Resurgence, it is perhaps a truism that heroes die young before they just fade away a mere shadow of their former 'Freedom Fighter' selves?

WELSH REPUBLICANS AGAINST MONARCHY

- 18 visits - 19 Mar
20 Mar 2011 ... WELSH REPUBLICANS AGAINST MONARCHY. In Assistance to politically the Challenged and Confused Retro and Romantic 'Welsh Republican' debris in ...
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Of course for real Patriots there can be no retreat to hide out of the way for five days for real patriots there can only be the PATRIOTIC FRONTline! as we made sure of back in the day.

Alternative Welsh Nationalist Archive: The Patriotic Front and the ...

- 24 visits - 18 Mar
29 Apr 2007 ... You dear patriot and history can decide on that, and at same time hope consider, ... I have considered the coming 'Third Investiture' over in my Adfywiad Gwladgarol... ALTERNATIVE WELSH NATIONALISM 2010 RIP BUT WILL T.. ...
awnms.blogspot.com/.../patriotic-front-and-free-wales-army.html - Cached - Similar

Though before the Royal Couples big day there is another date that might make Welsh History big time, that being the 5th May 2011 Welsh Assembly Election day. Quite possibly the day the Assembly becomes a Labour Assembly and becomes what the Welsh Communist Party sees as the Road to a Peoples Parliament. Whilst for Plaid Cymru this might mark the day Plaid began to retreat back into their rural heartlands of Pura Wallia and I will be quite happy to helping them on their way by calling upon Welsh Nationalists to vote Welsh Labour in the Assembly Elections. As to why I will explain in a future post. suffice now to inform:

National Assembly for Wales election, 2011 - Wikipedia, the free ...

The poll will be held on Thursday 5 May 2011 and will decide the incumbency for all ... 4.1Labour Targets; 4.2 Plaid Cymru Targets; 4.3 Conservative Targets ..... "BBC News - 2015Welsh assembly election delayed, says Carwyn Jones". ...
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To return to the matters left low as Plaid kept in background in the Referendum but now rising to the surface, will Independance be back on Plaid Agenda during this Assembly Election or if ever?:

What say do we onestly have in Europe now? Nothing zilch. ... Yes plaid are nationalists but that does nto mean there is no place in Welsh politics for other parties. ... Too many Welshyoung people are leaving to find opportunities as the ... take the fate of Welsh Nation from the English hands.DEWCH YMLAEN CYMRU. ...
walescan.com/be-independent/article/be-the-change - Cached - Similar

BBC News - Lord Elis-Thomas: 'Wind up Wales Office'

6 Mar 2011 ... "It's probably a bit premature to say in a cavalier way, well we've got to get rid of the Wales Office but the role of the Wales Office will ...
www.bbc.co.uk/news/12659128 - Cached

Lib Dems peer calls for more AMs - Llandudno - Local Welsh News ...

8 Mar 2011 ... “The size of the Assembly could go up to 80 AMs from the Assembly ... not be enough to cope with the need to scrutinise proposed Welsh laws. ...
www.walesonline.co.uk/.../lib-dems-peer-calls-for-more-ams-91466-28295816/ - Cached

It's time to believe in ourselves

2 Feb 2011 ... We too need to recognise our potential and the need to believe in .... Support for tax-raising powers for the Assembly is demonstrably lower ...
waleshome.org/2011/02/its-time-to-believe-in-ourselves/ - Cached

WalesHome.org — Independent analysis from and about Wales

- 3 visits - 6 Mar
Well, Plaid Cymru, your long wait is over… .... There are ways other the Jobcentre Plus for getting Welsh people back tow work ...
www.waleshome.org/ - Cached

It's time to be honest with our people and go for it, not by wishy washy back peddling flim flamer means. There will be risks but best be truthful in all matters, lets return to
America worth reminding of fact that those who stood for Independance were a minority who made a stand and were fit for the fight! However, remaining on America, there were later post Independance betrayals, I would advise Welsh Patriots to see the DVD of the Film 'Revolution', see link below with comparison to two other films on subject of the American War of Independence. Last but not least check out some history on early American Revolts against their own central government, as the Shays and Whiskey Rebellion.

The American War of Independence: Three Films - History enthusiasts should visit the BBC History Magazine website for book reviews, heritage visits, ...
www.historyextra.com/.../american-war-independence-three-films - Cached

HWB HANES CYMRU/WELSH HISTORY HUB: EARLY AMERICANREBELLIONS: A ...

16 Mar 2011 ... HWB HANES CYMRU/WELSH HISTORY HUB. ALL MATTERS WELSH HISTORY INFORMATION and NEWS, ... The Whiskey Rebellion | Early America's Milestone Historic Documents .... A revolt by desperate Massachusetts farmers in 1786, ...
hwbhanes.blogspot.com/.../early-american-rebellions-warning-from.html - Cached

      1. That's your wake up call now see below and smell the coffee, thinks now!.... is that 'Hand' still the Gory Hand Of English Conquest and Colonisation on our Country? You will have many years to consider the truth of this but I suggest you start worrying now as soon you might have to revolt against the 'Bae Bradwyr Caerdydd - Senedd Free State' and free our country from an elitist tyrrany that oppresses our minds with their lies and exploits us to their own self interest and advantage?

        1. 6 Mar 2011... or they can lose Cardiff in 2012. They are a autonomous party. 6 March 201111:11 ... Valleys Mam. Valleys Mam ... Cardiff votes 'yes' in Welsh referendum. 1 day ago... 5 days ago. A Very Public Sociologist ...
          merchmerthyr.blogspot.com/2011/03/is-there-political-elite-in-wales.html

      1. The Peoples Parliament might yet require rebels, Red Rebels to be sure ready and willing to storm up the steps of the 'Sham Senedd' and make of the Assembly a true People's Parliament. Anyone out there ready for that, building barricades in the Bay? No! that's only Assyrian Rod stuff or maybe not?

  3. The ASSYRIAN ROD.

    - 20 visits - 7 Mar    11 Mar 2011 ... This inspires me to write a fictional futuristic alternate Welsh history story, titled 'The Assyrian Rod' which will be developed in this ...assyrianrod.blogspot.com/ - Cached - Similar
  4. In passing:
    1. Bacon's Rebellion was an uprising in 1676 in the Virginia Colony in North America, led by a 29-year-old planter Nathaniel Bacon. About a thousand Virginians ...
      Background - The Rebellion - Effects - See also
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    2. Bacon's Rebellion

      Beginning, Progress, and Conclusion of Bacon's Rebellion in Virginia, In the Years 1675 and 1676 (in Series 8: Virginia Records, 1606-1737 of Thomas ...
      www.virginiaplaces.org/military/bacon.html - Cached - Simila
    Investigations have recently been pursued in Virginia into the causes of the first Americanrevolt, known as Bacon's Rebellion, in 1676. ...
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